Sunday, February 21, 2016

Online Tournaments Suspended

Due to medical reasons I need to suspend my online tournament play until further notice.  I played a couple today and didn't cash in either one of them but the main problem was tournaments are not like a cash game, you can't just leave when you want to.  630pm rolls around and I was so fatigued and so tired all I wanted to do was sleep.  My mind just wasn't in it and I obviously need to rebuild my stamina which is not quite back just yet.  At least with cash games I can quit anytime I want to.  It's not even 7:30 and I'm so ready to go to sleep.

The $20 tables were like a virtual graveyard today.  Must be something about Sundays but people were not playing and I ended up getting in less than 500 hands played, but on a good note it was a $37 profit.  If I am to resume online tournaments I think I will start with the $2 non rebuys.  They don't go as long because of no rebuy period and  they generally get less than 60 people.  During my recovery I am learning that I need to take things slowly and I can't just jump back into the schedule I had going before.  It's very frustrating to me, but I'm realizing I don't have a lot of choice about it.   So for now I will simply say good night and I will see you at the tables.

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  1. Hey FD, thanks for letting me knock you out of the freeroll!
    :-)

    Dude, I was so tired from being up ~24hrs straight and having played some $1-2 at Peppermill and a slot tournament beforehand, I was ready to crash, too. I got crazy, and called a lot of PF all-ins, won 7/7 and kept slowly chipping up.

    Then, WSOP had an issue that I think was going on for some of the day beforehand. All of a sudden, I get this message saying that I have remote desktop software running and that the games can’t run with it. I get kicked out of my cash game and the tournament table closes; I check to make sure I have nothing running (of course nothing), check for viruses/malware, restart, close all unnecessary crap, and still can’t get in. This occurred right at a break so I had a few minutes. Emailed support, checked Twitter -- apparently other people were having the same issue. No response from WSOP about this.

    So I’m getting blinded out for about 15 minutes or something and load up the tournament on my phone, down a few thousand, first hand all-in for a bit better than a double-up. Now I go lay down and half-falling asleep and keep in it until I finally busted AJ vs AK in 20th of 700-whatever on my 8th all-in. Each time I’m thinking, “hmm, I either double up, steal or go to bed."

    I don’t know if the remote desktop thing is a Mac issue only, but watch out for it. I’m pretty sure that that’s why about half of the tournament field was sitting out. I would’ve been really pissed if I was playing some big game. This is kind of rather why I prefer live vs online; no net connection issues or weird software crap, all of my money is right there and if something seems off I can (practically) instantly rack it and leave.

    I’m curious about what the players are saying at the 20NL tables. Maybe the same complaints as the 2NL people, with equal merit.

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  2. I didn't let you do squat young man if an A or Q pops up that board vs your 99, I double up classic race which you won lol.

    Ask for the table talk. I notice a lot of the players talking about setups more than anything 2 or sometimes three huge hands which obviously stacks are being played for and I have experienced it myself. One of the hands that I mentioned I flopped a set of fives my opponent flops 2 pair kings in Jacks and there's a jack on the turn giving us both a full house things of this nature and while I admit that it is quite prevalent I still maintain there is no way in the world a company like Caesars is going to be stupid enough to pull any funny business in a US regulated maeket. there is no way they would need to it would be assenine to the extreme not just from a financial aspect, but from a public relations one as well.

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    1. LOL I woulda ripped it with AQ also and would’ve been fine with whatever result. Was so ready to just go to sleep at that point.

      I don’t think that WSOP would fix the game to increase rake a little; it’s worth what, a few extra hundred dollars a day, maybe? And if it were ever proven that that’s what they were doing, it costs them billions...

      I see a lot of super sick shit live like flopped nut flushes against rivered quads, and there’s literally no reason for setups live for a casino because they hit the rake cap just about every hand (like 1/20-something blinds chop; occasionally like three limpers and the first half-pot bet takes it down).

      I think the crazy runouts online just seem more unreal because of the pace of the game, how quickly and often people can reload, and how relatively cheap it is.

      Online games run at least 2x live speed, usually faster, so you see a ton more hands -- and usually people play 2-4 tables. 20NL, being ten times smaller than the smallest cash game, means that someone can stand to lose 5+ buying on any one session. Usually live if people suffer a bad beat they can rebuy their $200 stack, but I’ve never seen someone sober just get pounded like that 5+ times in a few hours. Online it’s way more likely to happen because the beats are usually spread across tables; when you’re just running bad, it’s easy to conflate this and feel like it’s all just one big, shitty game, and when players have auto-top off and rebuy for $20 and get stuck, they’re often more likely to keep going all-in in thin spots to try to recoup.

      I do find it odd however when every few hours, for 30-40 mins across a few consecutive days, 7/10 hands on four tables either flop paired or 3 flush boards... I guess it’s just variance but it seems so mathematically unlikely. I took a bunch of screenshots one day when this was happening, and have seen it again since. I was winning during these strange hands but still couldn’t help being suspicious.

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  3. I didn't let you do squat young man if an A or Q pops up that board vs your 99, I double up classic race which you won lol.

    Ask for the table talk. I notice a lot of the players talking about setups more than anything 2 or sometimes three huge hands which obviously stacks are being played for and I have experienced it myself. One of the hands that I mentioned I flopped a set of fives my opponent flops 2 pair kings in Jacks and there's a jack on the turn giving us both a full house things of this nature and while I admit that it is quite prevalent I still maintain there is no way in the world a company like Caesars is going to be stupid enough to pull any funny business in a US regulated maeket. there is no way they would need to it would be assenine to the extreme not just from a financial aspect, but from a public relations one as well.

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  4. Forget the rebuys bro, just play the $20 deepstack once a day that's your best bet to increase the tournament bankroll.

    Also you didn't put your bb/100 winrate for NL20 or February NL20. I wasn't sure if you didn't know how to calculate it as a loss but overall at NL20 you are: -0.40bb/100 and for February: -4.76bb/100

    For NL10 February you are -13.4bb/100. Glad you back in the swing of things dude you will get to $10k in no time.

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  5. Yeah Claude I know how to calculate it but it's too depressing to calculate lol. I'm not playing the rebuys anymore I'm only playing the non rebuys and I don't want to jump into the $20 ones well I do want to, but I have to consider bankroll concerns. $20 for a single tournament is a full buyin at my cash games so if I have the stamina I'm going to play two of the $2 ones each day try to get some earnings there and then play the $20 ones. My body is crashing after only 6 hours on the tables and its obvious to me that I have no choice that if I want to get in my full schedule I'm going to have to go back to the caffeine pills to hell with the blood pressure

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  6. Take your time to recuperate FD, your body is telling you it needs rest. If you force the issue, it is going to go on strike, or quit eventually.

    I am going through a rough patch myself this past week. I would start by losing 2-3 buyins within the first 1-2 hours, then spend the rest of the day digging out of the deficit to end with a small loss or break even. Finally had a somewhat decent day the day before, then yesterday the wheels fell off and down 6 buyins, probably the worst day in online for the past year. I should have listened to my body and not played at all yesterday because mentally and physically I was tired, but I decided to try and push through because I had such a tough week. Lots of 2 outer against me on turn and river, and lots of flopped sets losing against draws. And definitely paying off more than usual because I was getting a bit of "I can't believe he got me again" tilt.

    Going to take it next few days, no online play and may be play a little live cash for a change of scene.

    GL

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    1. I know I said no online poker for a few days, but I had already signed up for a special Canadian only tourny on Pokerstars for a chance to win ticket for a free roll.

      First hand of tourny, 1500TC, blinds at 10/20. I min raised UTG w 77, button and BB called. Flop Q74 2 toned. BB donk bets 20. I raised to 95, both villains called. Turn is an off suit 5, BB now donks 495. Smells fishy, if he hit his gut shot, I have outs. More likely he was stubborn and hit some rinky dink 2 pairs, I jam, button folds and BB snap called. River 6, and the chips slide over to Villain with his Q8o for a runner runner gut shot.

      A good example of how I have been running this week. OK, whining over.

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  7. "I’m curious about what the players are saying at the 20NL tables. Maybe the same complaints as the 2NL people, with equal merit."

    They are saying the same things that players who lose have said at every single online poker site that has ever existed. Rigged this, rigged that blah blah blah. If I had 1 dollar for every rigged comment at online cash or tournament tables, I would certainly be a millionaire. You truly can not have an understanding of the game of online poker, or really be a consummate professional, if you really think the sites are rigged or full of 'setups'. The only way to actually determine that is to run a million+ hand sample, do analysis, and determine if there is a meaningful statistical deviation from expected results. Many of the tests have been run on many/most/all sites and rarely have the data run outside of expected values.

    If you can't get off the flawed thinking of rigtards, you are wasting your poker time, energy, and thought instead of thinking of proper strategy, evaluation of your game, and study time.

    The problem with poker is the odds are so low to hit anything, that just about anything can happen and the probability is just not that far out. I mean, everyone thinks AA is a super monster against 72 is just a 7 to 1 favorite, only 7 to 1

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  8. The table talk seems to be working as the $20 tables are completely playerless as of 3 p.m. this afternoon. I'm working on my current blog post which explains because of the lack of action there I am bypassing $20NL completely grinding $10NL until I have enough for $50NL the whole thing is ridiculous but the player pool for the $20 tables is not there and has been sporadic at best up until this point. I've seen four tables going and ten minutes later down to a single table with only 7 people on it it's crazy

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    1. This may just be the after effects of the ridiculous location verification problem WSOP had. I decided to just go play live again yesterday because of it. Doubled up really quickly early one when I flopped set over set tens over threes, got another half stack with KQ boat, and then proceeded to bleed out most of it over the next few hours when people decided to call stuff like my big AK reraises with crap like 74o and catch miracle 7A4 flops. Kinda crap I don’t expect really happens online at 200NL; two guys kept saying, “Oh, I just had a feeling I’d flop well... I play by feel.” But, I expect that I’ll just get it all back next time.

      Oh well. Today is busy for me with another free slot tournament and the caucus but maybe see you on.

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  9. Online you have 3 extra cards that do not play in a live game, there is no burn cards online. So imo suckouts happen more frequently online.

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    1. Zin, burn cards don't make any difference.

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